WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



BRANDED 5:25 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
The main fact is there are loads of fat cunts and those of us who pay taxes don't want to pay for their I'll health.

mashed in maryland 4:59 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
orwells tragedy 3:55 Fri Mar 18

Fat don't make you fat. And "zero fat" foods are often full of loads of complete shit that most normal people can't even pronounce.

Goes against everything we've been taught over the past few decades but the mainstream seems to be slowly picking this fact up.

Hermit Road 4:51 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
I haven't got any strong feelings about this, that's until you take Oliver's involvement into consideration, and then I find myself vehemently against it. And Osborne is an embarrassment, being pushed around by a celebrity chef. What a cock. Possibly even less natural leadership ability than the man he hopes to replace.

hub hub hub hub 4:09 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
Was listening to LBC this morning. Steve Allen (funny fucker) was rightly laying into this cunt. Apparently Oliver has a deal with a Woolworths chain over in Australia and the food he promotes over there is full of sugar. I think 1 of his things was a hot cross bun filled with vanilla ice cream that had 17 grams of sugar in. So he's ok when the money is lining his pockets but not when it isn't.

Infidel 4:08 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
rios

I grew up in a sweetshop.

My Dad was a newsagent on Shepherds Bush Road and we lived over the top of the shop.

I ate industrial quantities of sweets, chocolate, crisps and ice cream and washed it down with a few litres of Coke.

But I also played football every day- before school, during school and after school.

Weekends were mostly spent playing football on Shepherds Bush Green or, if we felt like trading up, in Ravenscourt Park.

I have never been fat and the same goes for my brothers and sisters (all four of them).

That's the difference between today's yoof and our generation. No play station, no XBox, no 200 channel TV, no Netflix, no smart phones or tablets....you had to run around or go out of your mind with boredom.

If Osborne really wants to tackle child obesity he should tax video games out of existence.

penners28 3:59 Fri Mar 18
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Moncurs Putting Iron 2:42 Fri Mar 18

when you were young? in 1920?

orwells tragedy 3:55 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
Its Ancel Keys fault. In the last forty years we've reduced the fat in our foods by about 30% and added sugar. If reduced fat is good for you why have we got an obesity epidemic?

riosleftsock 2:48 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
I hardly ever ate sweets or cakes as a kid, we were allowed 2 biscuits each with tea at the weekend.

At school, dessert was often that strange pink blancmange, that only the morbidly obese could eat.

I grew up (like my brothers and sisters) without a sweet tooth. Suffice to say, we are all in our 40s and 50s now and not one of us is overweight and we all eat pretty much what we want, none of us are health-freaks.

I get all my sugar intake from beer and wine, and intend to keep it that way.

Moncurs Putting Iron 2:42 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
When I was a child there were three TV channels and the programme broadcast most extensively was a test card.

But we had great freedom. We are outdoors and independent.

We'd play football for hours until we hit a standstill. Then we'd sit down talk shit, rally round and play some more.

Kids these days live in a prison of constant supervision and optical and aural stimulation and I for one feel sorry for them.

Scraper 2:42 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax

Mongs not allowed to have kids? Now you're speaking my language.

mashed in maryland 2:37 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
Not eating or feeding your family shite is FUCKING EASY and anyone who says differently is a liar or a mong and shouldn't be allowed to have kids.

Infidel 2:35 Fri Mar 18
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mim

Sugar sandwiches - Jesus, had forgotten about those.

I used to come home from school, get a slice of white bread, give it a thick coating of butter and then cover it in Tate & Lyle white sugar.

Delicious.

You'd be arrested for letting a child eat one these days.

mashed in maryland 2:34 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
Someone in the academy/schools/cunting off teachers thread said about how their kids school gives them a 20 minute lunch break and there's no playground or anything.

Stuff like that is collective societal suicide.

My primary school banned football.

Fucking ridiculous.

Big Dave 2:31 Fri Mar 18
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penners28 2:28 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax

kids are fat nowadays as they are just lazy fat cunts

when i was younger i just used to play football in the park all day. now kids just play fifa

> True to a degree. Current fear of a paedophile in every bush etc doesn't help.

There is also a link between the amount of green space and obesity. It tends to be more of an urban problem - a lack of places to exercise.

We're all more sedentary nowadays.

Big Dave 2:29 Fri Mar 18
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Infidel 2:14 Fri Mar 18

Do you work for the IEA or something?

Anybody who tells me that kids eat more sugar now than they did in the 1970s is talking bollocks.

> On average? True. Problem is socioeconomic status: cheaper foods contain more sugar and fat (as they are cheaper to produce) and they are bought by the less well off.

And don;t get me started on organic food. If pesticides and herbicides are so toxic how come everyone who grew up in in the 60s and 70s is still here?

> Few were toxic to us (unless we necked a gallon of DDT). Issue is/was the effect on the environment. Pesticides kill pretty indiscriminately - you're bumping off the weevils but also the bees.

These days there are very strict rules - but protecting us from what exactly?

Maybe trying to reduce the £6-8 billion (estimated) cost to the NHS.

penners28 2:28 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
kids are fat nowadays as they are just lazy fat cunts

when i was younger i just used to play football in the park all day. now kids just play fifa

taxing fizzy drinks wont make 1 bit of difference, apart from my weekly can of coke costing me more. in fact, i might go on strike

BRANDED 2:26 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
As far as the 50s 60s 70s and 80s are concerned a huge number of hess people are overweight pensioners. They gained weight over decades by eating more calories than they burnt off. Kids just don't burn calories so stuffing their faces with sugary foods is a fast track to blubber and health problems.

BRANDED 2:23 Fri Mar 18
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Regarding pesticides and chemicals. We still dump billions of tons on our crops, just not the carcinogenic ones. Its impossible to say exactly what effect they are having.
As far as sugars are concerned I think you'll find that there is a huge increase in the consumption of refined sugars all of which get rapidly turned into blubber.

mashed in maryland 2:20 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
Inf, my old man grew up in the 50s, whenever one of these scare stories about how much shit kids are eating is doing the rounds he scoffs and relays anecdotes about sugar sandwiches, condensed milk and sherbert.

Tell ya something else, if you go into a supermarket pretty much anywhere else in the world except north America and the UK, go into the fruit & veg section. In fact just do this in any fruit & veg shop in east London. Half the food lying about would NEVER be on sale in a supermarket in the UK, cos it'd look bruised, not the "right" shape etc.

And what the fuck is it with shrink wrapping things like potatoes? You're gonna boil them before you eat it anyway probably.

I think we're far too over-paranoid about food safety in this country.

My theory is it just gives some people one more thing to worry about.

Infidel 2:14 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
mim

I agree. Something very fishy with this story.

Anybody who tells me that kids eat more sugar now than they did in the 1970s is talking bollocks.

And don;t get me started on organic food. If pesticides and herbicides are so toxic how come everyone who grew up in in the 60s and 70s is still here?

Not only did we never eat a single organic food item, we ate foods that were essentially battered with a thick coat of pesticides - it was long before the controls on safe / unsafe chemicals came in and there were no controls at all on how much pesticide residue was allowed.

These days there are very strict rules -but protecting us from what exactly?

mashed in maryland 2:09 Fri Mar 18
Re: Jamie Oliver and the Sugar tax
Inf and Debs

I reckon that tooth thing is a bit misleading. Back in the old days stuff which may have required treatment might just not have been picked up? Or it's been picked up at an earlier age? There's plenty of people who grew up in the 50s-70s walking round with fillings and dentures.

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